Re: Mini-rant on Java REST (JAX-RS), JSON, XML, JAXB etc...
On 3/11/2013 8:38 PM, Arved Sandstrom wrote:
On 03/11/2013 09:24 PM, Arne Vajh?j wrote:
On 3/11/2013 8:12 PM, Arved Sandstrom wrote:
On 03/11/2013 07:07 PM, Arne Vajh?j wrote:
On 3/8/2013 7:44 PM, Arved Sandstrom wrote:
On 03/08/2013 02:06 PM, Leif Roar Moldskred wrote:
On the other
hand, none of the many frameworks that tries to solve the issue have
exactly whelmed me over either.
As I pointed out before, and I don't think I am far wrong, none of the
frameworks has appreciably saved anyone any labour in close to 2
decades. Given - and this is a big given - something like CSS2+, a CGI
script or servlet producing raw XHTML, per page, would be as
productive
as the current modern frameworks.
Well - I did a lot of CGI back then - and I think you are
exaggerating here.
I was very hard to work with.
[ SNIP ]
Exaggerating a bit, but maybe not as much as you think. I did CGI in
both C and in Perl. C not so much fun, but using something like Lincoln
Stein's CGI.pm, you could generate a lot of maintainable pages quickly -
I'd argue more quickly than with JSF.
I used C, Fortran and DCL.
Perl was probably a bit more high level.
I'll tell you what I think was another high productivity platform:
ColdFusion, which I used a great deal back in 1999 and 2000.
You know that you can run CF in a Java EE container?
[ SNIP ]
Yeah. We missed that by just a bit. What's ironic - and what turned out
to be a really bad decision back then - we had this good web app stuff
working on CF, and for some reason that completely escapes me now,
someone decided that switching to J2EE 1.2 was a good idea. It was a
terrible idea - it directly led to the demise of that startup.
If you liked it back then, then you could give it a try today!
There is a free open source implementation available:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/smithos/
Arne
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