Re: How to learn software design
In article <af925725-c265-4fbf-879e-d104a0731b4b@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, James Kanze <james.kanze@gmail.com> wrote:
On 20 Dec, 12:09, Andy Champ <no....@nospam.invalid> wrote:
tanix wrote:
Sounds good. Just like a pipe dream. Some kind of virtual
sw paradise I might say.
Unfortunatly, with MY experience in the Silicon Valley,
doing the contract work on a cream of the crop level for the
biggest and baddest names in the inststry, such as Intel,
HP, Sun, SGI (Silicon Graphics), Amdahl, Hal Computers
(Fujutsu) and few others that is not what I saw. BY FAR!
Fascinating. I'm in England, and it doesn't seem to be like
that over here. I've heard tales of things like this, but
never seen them.
It depends on the organization, but if some one can't (or
doesn't) communicate, he's not competent.
One more time: unless you appreciate beauty and music.
you are just a lamer to me.
That is why you make these kinds of statement.
Competence has NOTHING to do with this sucky
"ability to communicate". This is simply disgusting.
Some of the brightest stars that ever walked this planet
and create work of art that hand in your museums and are
being sold for more than you can make in your lifetime,
"could not communicate".
Could Jimi Hendix "communicate"?
Could Dostoyevski "communicate"?
Could MOST of other brightest stars "communicate"?
What do you MEAN by "communicating"?
You mean YOUR dumbness of not being able to see the light of day?
They "communicate" to you via presenting the very result
of their life, and not bullshit you peddle all day long.
You see, you can be a smart "philosopher" that talks many
"smart" things. But can you TRANSLATE all that "smart" talk
into reality by manifesting it into a physical object,
somethign tangible, and not just words, signifying nothing
at the end?
Do you want Van Gogh or Modigliani "explain" to you what
their works mean?
If you are blind, there is no hope for you.
You can go study to ANY "university" and it is all just a
royal waste of time at the end.
(Since Sun was
mentionned: a large part of what I know about C++, I learned
from people at Sun. Who weren't even collegues---they still
took the time to answer my questions by email or in the news
groups.)
I know, I know.
Is it the Sun at their world headquarters in Mountain View,
California, USA?
Cause I know THOSE guys.
Maaan. They suck even worse than those vicious sharks
from SGI. Probably the 2nd most disgusting place I ever
had to deal with.
Perhaps you should point out to your colleagues that if they
wrote maintainable code someone else could maintain it (which
everyone IME hates) leaving them free to write the interesting
new stuff!
Or perhaps it is just that as a contractor you get given the
s**** jobs leaving the good bits for us permies?
We already covered that one in a previous post.
Let us see here an insightful reponse below...
That happens:-). But not necessarily as much as one might
think: I've just switched to being a permy after 25 years of
contracting, and I can say that I've seen a lot of interesting
things when contracting. (I learned C, C++, Java and Unix as a
contractor.
Wow. I feel jealous!
Hired in places which used the language, and were
willing to train me, or at least help me get up to speed.)
Wow. I am impressed.
To see the fools that would PAY contracters to LEARN
something?
Never head of such a thing. Sorry.
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