Re: Short-lived Objects - good or bad?

From:
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk>
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Date:
Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:27:17 -0400
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Andreas Leitgeb wrote:

Arne VajhHj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:

I would be very surprised if effective GC of short lived objects
would make GC of 1 long lived object more expensive than of 1000
short lived objects.

That might be the position of the reviewer, but I've been told
other times, that allocation/gc costs are generally neglectible
compared to (re-)initialisation costs (the constructor). In case
of an allocation the fields are nullified en bloc, upon re-init
they'd be nullified one by one.
Exceptions exist, and have been mentioned already.


The fact that allocation and GC are very cheap has nothing to do
with what I wrote.

t1 = cost of allocating one foobar
t2 = cost of GC one short lived foobar
t3 = cost of GC one longlived foobar
t4 = cost of initializing a foobar (constructor or otherwise)
t5 = loop overhead per iteration
t6 = actually work per iteration

outside:
   cost = t1 + 1000 *(t4 + t5 + t6) + t3

inside:
   cost = 1000 * (t1 + t4 + t5 + t6 + t2)

outside - inside = -999*t1 -1000*t2 + t3

My postulate was that -1000*t2+t3 was negative making the
difference negative.

The fact that t1+t2 is smaller than t4 does not disprove that.

The fact that t1+t2 is much smaller than t5+t6 proves that
outside/inside is very close to 1.

Which is the argument for write the code that are most natural.

Arne

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