Re: how java reserves memory

From:
Lew <lew@lewscanon.com>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:26:22 -0500
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Lew schrieb:

Unlike C# or other languages, the stack / heap dichotomy is not part of
the programming model in Java.


Christian wrote:

Do you know if java really doesn`t have a stack under the hood for
faster garbage collecting ?


Of course Java has a stack, but it's got nothing to do with speeding up GC.

Wouldn`t it be rather easy to determine what objects in a function call
could be put on a stack instead of a heap... (no Global reference to
them directly or indirectly)


The JVM does all sorts of optimizations, some of which involve putting objects
on the heap, or even in registers. Escape analysis is part of how it does that.

I mean wouldn`t it be helpful for the garbage collector, if it would
know Objects that would usually be put on the stack, so they could be
cleared from the heap when the method that allocated them returned?


If they're on the stack, there's nothing to "be cleared from the heap" in the
first place.

So not a real stack but it sounds like an easy to do optimization.


There is a stack in Java, it's just not part of the programming model (much).
  It holds the method-call frame, variables and the like. It's also a
convenient tool for the optimizer, as you discerned.

As programmers, we allocate objects on the heap, conceptually. They may wind
up on the stack, in registers or even not allocated whatsoever, at run time,
according to the optimizer's wisdom, but that is of no moment to the programmer.

--
Lew

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