Re: BitSet vs BigInteger (false Android doc)

From:
Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
Tue, 06 Sep 2011 22:28:52 +0200
Message-ID:
<j45vq4$s77$1@news.albasani.net>
Jan Burse schrieb:

- BigInteger is also not dependent for positive values on some
two's complement, sign-plus-maginitude or one's complement etc..,
since these presentation were invented for negative values.

...

import java.math.BigInteger;
public class BigIntegerTest {
   public static void main(String[] args) {
     BigInteger x = BigInteger.valueOf(3);
     BigInteger y = BigInteger.valueOf(2);
     System.out.println(x.or(y.not()));
   }
}


Well the above invalidates my claim to some extend. Since you
produced an example where you get a negative number from
bitwise ops on positive numbers.

But from the context of my claim, it should of course also be
clear that I exclude the not() operation. Since I have mentioned
the not() operation many times a special to BigInteger.

If you exclude the not() operation, you will stay in the positive
domain. Also excluding the not() operation makes sense since
you cannot directly translate an example that uses the not()
from BigInteger to BitSet.

You can translate the following special case (use a purely
functional notation, although the BitSet call is in fact an
inline modification of the first operand):

    BigInteger: and(x,not(y))
    BitSet: andNot(x,y)

But for the following operation, we don't find an equivalent
in BitSet, since we would leave the positive integer domain,
as you have shown:

   BigInteger: or(x,not(y))
   BitSet: ??

So the Android advice is limited to the cases where you
stay in the positive domain. And in this domain there is
no performance penalty found in any representation schema
that deals with negatives numbers, since we work with positive
numbers only. And in the positive domain the same algorithm
are usually used for BigInteger bitwise operation and for
BitSet operations.

Also in the Android code the same algorithm is used for
BigInteger bitwise operations and for BitSet operations. I
have quoted as an example the xor() code. But since the
Android code internally uses C for the integer operations
and Java for the bitwise operations in BigInteger, a
copy operation is involved that copies from C to Java,
before doing the bitwise operation.

This copying is cached, and of course does not happen
anymore after a couple of bitwise operations, since the
operands are already cached, and the result as well.

Bye

P.S.: BigInteger has also an andNot(), which sends
positive integers to positive integers, I do not exclude
this operation in my claim.

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