Re: Java Logging Question

From:
Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
Thu, 29 Apr 2010 23:19:09 +0100
Message-ID:
<alpine.DEB.1.10.1004292317450.7612@urchin.earth.li>
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010, Arne Vajh?j wrote:

On 28-04-2010 19:57, Tom Anderson wrote:

On Wed, 28 Apr 2010, markspace wrote:

Rhino wrote:

The comment above that line says only that the "default file output
in the user's home directory"


User's home directory! Like /usr/rhino or C:\Users\Rhino or /home/rhino.


Is there anywhere it would be /usr/rhino?

On OS X, it would be /Users/Rhino, FWIW. On unix systems configured for
large numbers of users, it might well be /home/r/rhino (it's broken up
alphabetically). On unix systems which organise users by primary group
(and there are some), it would be /home/pachyderms/rhino. All of which
is useless information, of which i am a veritable mine.

More importantly, why on earth is java writing logs to home directories?
That's dreadful behaviour!


If it has to pick a directory that:
- is known to exist
- where the app has write permission
- where files does not get deleted
- conceptually will exist on all platforms (or at least as many as possible)
then what would you suggest?


I'd suggest those assumptions are wrong. A library has no business
deciding to write logs anywhere on disk at all; it should write logs where
i tell it to, and only when i tell it to. If it has to log and i haven't
told it to write to a file, it should write to syserr.

tom

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