Re: Why do more and more Linux distries default OpenJDK?

From:
Lew <lew@lewscanon.com>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:51:04 -0700 (PDT)
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Christian wrote:

anyone got an idea why more and more Linux distries default to OpenJDK?

It seems to be problematic as this OpenJDK does not implement the full
java API .. lots of methods and fields (I think I have seen a statistic
that showed it was more than 2%) are missing. (i.e. Pattern.quote() and
many more)


Joshua Cranmer wrote:

I have OpenJDK 6 installed and it clearly has Pattern.quote:

It might be missing sun.* or com.sun.* packages, but if you're relying
on those, you're having portability problems anyways.


I have operated my Linux box for weeks at A time with OpenJDK 6 as the
default Java, running NetBeans, my own Java programs, applets and
whatnot, with nary a compatibility issue. I don't know what the OP is
on about.

Christian wrote:

I though normal sun [sic] jre [sic] would be compatible with linux [sic] licence?


Joshua Cranmer wrote:

The licensing issues of Sun's old JRE's did not classify as free per
many standards; many Linux distributions tend to be rather evangelical
in their quest for freedom (the best example is the Debian/Mozilla dispute).


Also, even if Linuces did include a Sun JRE, you'd still have to
install a JDK, and likely the inbuilt one would be a version or so
behind what you want so you'd have to upgrade anyway.

I have OpenJDK, a couple of different versions of Sun's JDK and an IBM
JDK installed. The question of what comes installed in the base Linux
is rather moot.

(There is a corner case where some Java EE apps developed for
WebSphere and an IBM JRE expect certain JARs to be in the extensions
directory, causing trouble if one runs them under a Sun JRE, but
that's not a Java problem so much as a configuration problem.)

My experience is that OpenJDK is an entirely satisfactory
implementation.

--
Lew

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