Re: C# programmers need a little help with Java and NetBeans references.

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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk>

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Date:

Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:00:13 -0400

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Mike Schilling wrote:

Arne Vajh?j wrote:

Mike Schilling wrote:

Lew wrote:

If the IDEs are too much trouble, and they won't be later, I
promise,
then just work with the command line. That's a good way to learn
Java
anyway.

It is, but you'd have a difficult time convincing a Microsoft
programmer that. C# (or VB.Net) and Visual Studio are pretty much
joined at the hip.

But it is more of a mentality thing than a technical thing. You can
write the code in a standard editor or a non-MS IDE and build
with MS command line tools or NAnt. It is just that a big
chunk of .NET developers just take the complete MS package
and only use that.

I think we're in complete agreement on that. I do pretty much what
you suggest: develop with gvim (which understands basic C# syntax) and
build with Ant (which comes with optional .NET tasks, though I've had
to improve them a bit) and it works reasonably well. But try going to
microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp and ask a question like "How
do I create a web service without having VS.NET generate it for me?".
You will be met with complete incredulity.

If you want to know how, then the wsdl utility can be used
command line and NAntContrib has a wsdl task (for WCF there
is a svcutil but AFAIK no NAntContrib task yet).

Arne