Re: Strange applet behaviour on Firefox / Fedora

From:
Nigel Wade <nmw@ion.le.ac.uk>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:36:52 +0000
Message-ID:
<fhhi1l$2e6$1@south.jnrs.ja.net>
Knute Johnson wrote:

Lew wrote:

Knute Johnson wrote:

Lew, are you running F8?


No, F7. Due to a hardware failure I do not have a working DVD ROM for a
few days.

Did you do the Xinerama fix?


No. Link?

Are you using FF 2.0.0.9?


2.0.0.8


F7 is a little different. The Xinerama fix is specific to F8. With F7
or F8 and Sun's Java you need to have loaded compat-libstdc++-33. The
plugin will show in 'about:plugins' but won't work without the library
above.


Ah, I'd not considered that possibility. I normally just run ldd against the
plugin to see what libraries it needs and whether the run time linker can find
them. libstdc++ is not shown as a specific dependency. However, I normally
install the full development (including 32bit compatibility) and legacy
software support package groups, part of which is this package. That's probably
why the plugin works for me.

I really like using the JPackage RPMs to set up the alternatives.

I've posted a page for setting up Sun Java on F8;

http://knutejohnson.com/sun-java-on-F8.html

I don't know why this has to be so hard but it is. You would think that
Sun would help out a little and I guess they are with the open source
business.


There is no love lost between RedHat (the sponsors of Fedora) and Sun. Add to
that that Fedora is strictly FOSS only (to the determent of the distro, IMHO)
and won't entertain including Sun's Java until it is fully FOSS, there is
little encouragement for Sun to assist in making their Java work on a platform
which is (or was) anti-Sun.

F8 has icedtea, which is the open source Java. It's missing
Java Sound but other than that seems to work although I'm having some
applet problems with it.


Does it have the same applet problems which make gcj untenable, principally that
it has no security manager?

I would like to see a single Java which all the Linux distros could package and
maintain together. It would certainly help move toward the write once, run
anywhere ideal which is supposed to be what Java is about. Hopefully this one
step closer now that RedHat have signed up to Sun's OpenJDK agreement, and
RedHat and Sun can pull in the same direction for a change.

--
Nigel Wade, System Administrator, Space Plasma Physics Group,
            University of Leicester, Leicester, LE1 7RH, UK
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