Re: NIO multiplexing + thread pooling

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Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li>

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Tue, 27 Sep 2011 20:52:31 +0100

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On Sun, 25 Sep 2011, Robert Klemme wrote:

On 09/24/2011 09:46 PM, Tom Anderson wrote:

On Sat, 24 Sep 2011, Giovanni Azua wrote:

would it increase performance to setup a Thread Pool and associate one
SelectionKey to one specific Thread in the pool so that all read/write
operations for each specific channel go through one specific Thread
from the Pool?

That would not be a thread pool. That would be a thread-per-connection
model. I can't say that the performance would be worse than with a real
thread pool, but i doubt it would be better than using blocking IO.

As far as I can see Giovanni did not say that there was a 1:1 relationship
between threads and channels.

I think i read "associate one SelectionKey to one specific Thread" as
meaning that, but evidently wrongly.

The approach does actually make sense if there is a fixed limit on the
number of channels one thread is responsible for. The idea being that a
single thread can pull of just that much IO and if the number of clients
is not limited a single thread may indeed be the bottleneck. On the
other hand this approach does create less threads than the thread per
connection model with blocking IO.

Hold on - there are two things here.

One, an N:M threading model, where you have N connections being served by
M threads, where N >> M. That, i readily agree, could offer better
performance than N:N or N:1 models.

But two, the idea that the M threads should have affinity for connections
- that, in effect, we would have an M*(N/M:1) model (i'm sure that
notation is crystal clear!). That, i am skeptical about.

If you're processing the channels in the selector thread (in which case
it's not really a selector thread), then it could be a bottleneck. So,
you can have several of them; Selector.select() is threadsafe, so with
a little attention to locking, you can have many threads selecting and
then working. This is called the leader/followers model.

I think the approach with fixed responsibilities of selector threads to
multiple channels scales better than using a single Selector for all
channels from multiple threads.

Yes. The latter is sort of N:1:M, and that has twice as many colons, where
colons are communication overhead.

But i don't see why the thread-affine M*(N/M:1) model would be any faster
than the simpler N:M (leader/followers) model.

tom

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