Re: Return of the Applets?

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=?windows-1252?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk>

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Date:

Sun, 05 Apr 2015 17:30:55 -0400

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On 4/5/2015 5:17 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

On 4/5/2015 5:08 PM, Arne Vajh?j wrote:

On 4/5/2015 4:54 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

On 4/5/2015 4:41 PM, Arne Vajh?j wrote:

On 4/5/2015 3:14 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

On 4/5/2015 1:31 PM, Stefan Ram wrote:

Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> writes:

You're mixing apples and oranges. Java is NOT JavaScript - or vice
versa. They are two different languages with two different purposes.

That must be some kind of reflex some people can't control!

But no one has claimed that Java was JavaScript. Relax.

No, but you are comparing them - which is like comparing apples and
oranges.

Yes.

They were compared as languages for running code in browser.

A perfectly valid comparison.

But Java does not "run in the browser". It runs in an extension, loaded
by the browser.

As opposed to JavaScript - which runs natively in most browsers.

A very important distinction.

A relevant distinction in some contexts.

But not relevant in this context.

The discussion was about access to screen and the ability to support RWS.

100% relevant in this conversation - but since it contradicts your
argument, you have to claim it's unimportant.

So how does the the fact that JavaScript comes from the browser vendor
while the Java plugin comes from Oracle impact the Stefan's conclusion
about support for RWD and what it means for Java?

Just like comparing apples and oranges is a perfectly valid comparsion
when discussing what fruits you think taste the best.

None of which explains why you brought the Java != JavaScript discussion
into the picture.

It does when you're comparing two entirely different languages with
different goals and different implementations.

So if someone is comparing C++ and objective-C in a specific context
then you also want to point out that it is two different languages??

I would not.

Neither for those two or for Java and JavaScript.

Yes they are.

Did you read the question?

The ONLY thing they have in common are the letters "J", "v" and two
"a"s.

But since you insist, let me give you some factual information.

- Both are trademarks of Oracle.

So?

It proves that your claim:

#The ONLY thing they have in common are the letters "J", "v" and two
"a"s.

is wrong.

So I guess you're just being a pedantic troll than, Arne.

Since when has it been considered trolling to point out that
claims made are flat out wrong??

When you split hairs to contradict a bigger point. It's a mark of a
pedantic troll.

You started a completely irrelevant sub-thread. And it is splitting
hairs to point out that besides irrelevant then it was also wrong.

:-)

Arne