Re: Fixed-point arithmetic library

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Lew <noone@lewscanon.com>

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Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:42:23 -0800

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On 02/23/2012 02:03 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:

On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:16:04 +0000, Tom Anderson
<twic@urchin.earth.li> wrote:

On Wed, 22 Feb 2012, Gene Wirchenko wrote:

[snip]

I have been working with fixed-point arithmetic in JavaScript so
that I can add dollar amounts exactly. Maybe OP has something similar
in mind, though with the number of digits of precision that he wants
before the decimal point, I hope it is not currency-related.

It is currency-related. What's wrong with that?

      You are dealing with monstrously-large numbers. National debts
or something similar?

      If you only needed up to fifteen [decimal] digits of precision total, you
could use IEEE 754 64-bit floating point format and store integers.
They will be stored exactly. IEEE 754 is the only number format that
JavaScript exposes for variable types (though it does use 32-bit
integers internally on some operations).

      I had to experiment with this, but I got it working.

      Looking up further, according to Wikipedia, there is a 128-bit
format that has 34.02 [decimal] digits of precision. If your target language
has this format as one of its number types, you could store integers
in such variables. You did state that you need 30 [decimal] digits of
precision, so this would fit. This would be a cheap, fairly simple
solution.

Are you taking into account the precision of intermediate results?

If you multiply to 30-digit values you need 60 digits of precision to
represent the calculation.

This is a good time to recommend that everyone read "What Every Computer
Scientist Should Know About Floating Point Arithmetic", by David Goldberg.

--
Lew
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