Re: Incremental Java Compile

From:
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk>
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comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
Thu, 06 May 2010 20:06:05 -0400
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On 06-05-2010 02:22, Joshua Maurice wrote:

We recently were handed out this book describing Scrum, a variant of
agile development. I agree with what the author bolds and italicizes,
that interfaces need to be \stable\ (just the word \stable\).

I would love what you describe. However, my fellow employees and
managers understand little and respect little of what decoupled,
relatively well thought out, well defined interfaces can do for them.
It's always about the new feature. No code cleanup ever really get
done. My only real option to attack that front is to vote with my
feet. (As an example, I remember this one time that an architect at
the company in question said it was perfectly fine to use a finalizer
to manage C standard library heap memory allocated via JNI. I
protested quite vigorously.)


You should fix that problem instead of searching for the
magic tool that can compensate for those problems.

Also, as a potentially incorrect observation, do you think most java
developers use notepad or some other text editor to do their work? I
would suspect that most people use Eclipse nowadays. Eclipse is almost
exactly what I want from a build system, except it's limited to Java.
It's a nearly fully incrementally correct build system, and is a lot
better than I could ever do on my own as a side project. Would you all
be saying the same straw man arguments if you lost your incremental
IDE and had to use notepad / wordpad / emacs without all your cool
java-specific stuff to do your work? I think not.


If you think it is useful, then the Eclipse compiler is
open source and you can grab it and hack it to do what you
want.

Arne

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