Re: thread pool

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Philipp Kraus <philipp.kraus@flashpixx.de>

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Wed, 23 Jul 2014 08:11:03 +0200

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On 2014-07-22 21:14:49 +0000, Eric Sosman said:

On 7/22/2014 5:01 PM, Philipp Kraus wrote:

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My solution seems to be similar, but if I run your startThreads again
thet.start();

throws the InterruptedException directly, so I do

main()
{
Master x = new Master();

x.startThreads(5);
x.stopThreads();
x.startThreads(5); <= this does not work because the exception is thrown
}

Are you sure startThreads() is creating and starting brand-
new Threads each time it's called, not re-using old Threads?
To put it another way, are you sure stopThreads() actually stops
all the old Threads and waits for them to finish stopping (and
then clears its "running workers" list)?

IMHO I do this (m_runners is the threadgroup):

        m_runners.interrupt();
        try {

            m_threadcounter.await();

        } catch (InterruptedException l_exception) {
            m_Logger.error(l_exception.getMessage());
        }

m_threadcounter is the CountDownLatch which is initialize on the
startThreads with the number of threads and each thread
calls the countDown() method before the run is released

I cannot imagine how a newly-created Thread would find itself
in the interrupted state before anything interrupts it. Is there
some other part of your program that interrupts Threads when it
shouldn't?

I don't think so. The threads are stopped / started from the UI and I
use some external libraries.

I have build a short example under
https://github.com/flashpixx/threadtest which shows the problem (I use
Java 1.8).
I get
CSimulation@5cad8086 simulation is started with [5] threads
CWorker@18a5eea9 thread [9] starts working
CWorker@3d9bc497 thread [10] starts working
CWorker@7351b7d5 thread [11] starts working
CWorker@6605d308 thread [12] starts working
CWorker@6826907c thread [13] starts working

CWorker@6605d308 thread [12] stops working with current count down latch [3]
CWorker@18a5eea9 thread [9] stops working with current count down latch [3]
CWorker@7351b7d5 thread [11] stops working with current count down latch [2]
CSimulation@5cad8086 threads stopped
CWorker@3d9bc497 thread [10] stops working with current count down latch [0]
CWorker@6826907c thread [13] stops working with current count down latch [1]
CSimulation@5cad8086 simulation is stopped

CSimulation@5cad8086 simulation is started with [5] threads
CWorker@b7127ff thread [14] starts working
CWorker@6441c612 thread [15] starts working
CWorker@67d26a8e thread [16] starts working
CWorker@193fa958 thread [17] starts working
CWorker@3aa2722f thread [18] starts working

CWorker@6441c612 thread [15] stops working with current count down latch [3]
CWorker@193fa958 thread [17] stops working with current count down latch [1]
CWorker@3aa2722f thread [18] stops working with current count down latch [0]
CSimulation@5cad8086 threads stopped
CWorker@67d26a8e thread [16] stops working with current count down latch [3]
CSimulation@5cad8086 simulation is stopped
CWorker@b7127ff thread [14] stops working with current count down latch [0]

It seems, that the CountDownLatch does not work as expected. Any idea?

Phil
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On 2014-07-22 21:14:49 +0000, Eric Sosman said:
 
On 7/22/2014 5:01 PM, Philipp Kraus wrote:
[... ugly double-spaced Googlejunk snipped ...]
My solution seems to be similar, but if I run your startThreads again
thet.start();
 
throws the InterruptedException directly, so I do
 
main()
{
Master x = new Master();
 
x.startThreads(5);
x.stopThreads();
x.startThreads(5); <= this does not work because the exception is thrown
}
 
?? ? Are you sure startThreads() is creating and starting brand-
new Threads each time it's called, not re-using old Threads?
To put it another way, are you sure stopThreads() actually stops
all the old Threads and waits for them to finish stopping (and
then clears its "running workers" list)?
 
IMHO I do this (m_runners is the threadgroup):
 
? ? ? ? m_runners.interrupt();
? ? ? ? try {
 
? ? ? ? ? ? m_threadcounter.await();
 
? ? ? ? } catch (InterruptedException l_exception) {
? ? ? ? ? ? m_Logger.error(l_exception.getMessage());
? ? ? ? }
 
m_threadcounter is the CountDownLatch which is initialize on the startThreads with the number of threads and each thread
calls the countDown() method before the run is released
 
?? ? I cannot imagine how a newly-created Thread would find itself
in the interrupted state before anything interrupts it.? Is there
some other part of your program that interrupts Threads when it
shouldn't?
 
I don't think so. The threads are stopped / started from the UI and I use some external libraries.
 
I have build a short example under <a href="https://github.com/flashpixx/threadtest">https://github.com/flashpixx/threadtest</a> which shows the problem (I use Java 1.8).
I get?
CSimulation@5cad8086 simulation is started with [5] threads
CWorker@18a5eea9 thread [9] starts working
CWorker@3d9bc497 thread [10] starts working
CWorker@7351b7d5 thread [11] starts working
CWorker@6605d308 thread [12] starts working
CWorker@6826907c thread [13] starts working
 
CWorker@6605d308 thread [12] stops working with current count down latch [3]
CWorker@18a5eea9 thread [9] stops working with current count down latch [3]
CWorker@7351b7d5 thread [11] stops working with current count down latch [2]
CSimulation@5cad8086 threads stopped
CWorker@3d9bc497 thread [10] stops working with current count down latch [0]
CWorker@6826907c thread [13] stops working with current count down latch [1]
CSimulation@5cad8086 simulation is stopped
 
 
 
 
CSimulation@5cad8086 simulation is started with [5] threads
CWorker@b7127ff thread [14] starts working
CWorker@6441c612 thread [15] starts working
CWorker@67d26a8e thread [16] starts working
CWorker@193fa958 thread [17] starts working
CWorker@3aa2722f thread [18] starts working
 
CWorker@6441c612 thread [15] stops working with current count down latch [3]
CWorker@193fa958 thread [17] stops working with current count down latch [1]
CWorker@3aa2722f thread [18] stops working with current count down latch [0]
CSimulation@5cad8086 threads stopped
CWorker@67d26a8e thread [16] stops working with current count down latch [3]
CSimulation@5cad8086 simulation is stopped
CWorker@b7127ff thread [14] stops working with current count down latch [0]
 
It seems, that the CountDownLatch does not work as expected. Any idea?
 
Phil
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