Re: Dependency resolution in Java builds

From:
Lew <noone@lewscanon.com>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
Wed, 09 Feb 2011 08:02:26 -0500
Message-ID:
<iiu387$vkc$1@news.albasani.net>
Markus Gessner wrote:

Having just begun working with Java, I of course cannot really
appreciate its merits, but it seems, that it would be impossible to
implement the needs of a lot of business oriented applications without
its standards (Java EE), and some frameworks do have a certain charme
(e.g., JAXB and Hibernate). Nevertheless, the build environment I
experience gives me the overall impression of a car, nicely fitted with
teak panels, a GPS system and a minibar, but which has to be cranked
every mile or so. Says a somewhat frustrated mind, who prefers the
tramway :-)


OH, come on! Really?

I've worked on some hairy large projects and smaller ones, too. The time to
build an application as affected by this issue is never a factor, unless you
have improperly factored the dependencies, and that would be a problem in any
language.

Java's dependencies, at least when using Ant (I agree Maven is a bitch), are
usually resolvable for incremental builds without issue. When they aren't,
it's because of the unique features of Java (it compiles taking
already-compiled libraries into account, sort of combining compilation and
linking if you're thinking C[++]-ishly). In those situations, you do a clean
build and wait an extra minute. Big effing deal!

If your clean builds take hours, that's not Java's fault, that's yours.

--
Lew
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