Re: ANNOUNCE: libmsgque 3.1

From:
Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
Wed, 13 May 2009 22:23:22 +0100
Message-ID:
<alpine.DEB.1.10.0905132213040.2724@urchin.earth.li>
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Andreas Otto wrote:

Tom Anderson wrote:

On Tue, 12 May 2009, Andreas Otto wrote:

What is LibMsgque
=================

LibMsgque is an OS independent, Programming Language independent and
Hardware independent solution to link applications together to act like a
single application. Or with other words, LibMsgque is an
Application-Server toolkit.


So, did you find out about CORBA yet?


 nice to hear from you ...
       -> you are a CORBA fan ...


I wouldn't say that! I think CORBA had gone out of fashion before i
started shaving ...

 2 major points again CORBA:

   1. libmsgque does more than CORBA, I call it
       an application server toolkit ..
       if you read the docs than you'll find it out


I had a bit of a read, and it looked like a small but useful CORBA subset
plus some interesting tools.

   2. the job, I earn my money with, is to take-over
       an "old" project (I call it so) and I convert it back to
       a "living" project -> most projects in the world are "old"
       projects started as "high technical project" and end as
       something that the people used to live with and not
       want to. One of my last projects, I turned into a
       "living" project, was a client/server app based on CORBA
       -> I don't want to annoy you with the glory details,
       but just the decision to use CORBA (an implementation
       of a well known software vendor) add an extra TCO
       (total cost of ownership) of 3 million euro payed
       by the customers -> they don't want to use CORBA anymore

       -> this is, in fact, the only reason which count


Wow. That's a striking story. Could you share some of the gory details?
What were the problems with CORBA?

From what i know of the field, the real sticking point has always been
interoperability: an ORB from vendor A won't work will with one from
vendor B, or vendor X's binding to language P doesn't work with vendor Y's
binding to Q, or something like that. Of course, with your library,
there's no interoperability problem because there's only one vendor, you,
but you can always (well, usually) single-source a CORBA solution, too.
And there have been enough big, serious projects done with CORBA that we
know it *can* be done.

But clearly, your experience is that CORBA can go very badly wrong, so i'm
interested to learn why!

tom

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