Re: Jave SE vs. J2EE

From:
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk>
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Date:
Sun, 12 Apr 2009 20:08:45 -0400
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Chris P. Bacon wrote:

Just out of curiousity, how advanced does one
need to be before launching into J2EE development?


You should have a reasonable understanding of the
language itself.

But you do not really need to be an expert before
you start focusing on Java EE.

Besides basic language knowledge, then I would say
that jar files and IDE/ant/build stuff are the only
prerequisites.

I've done some very elementary J2SE programming
with the most complex program being a program
to take LDAP Search and break it up into 10000
row Excel tabs. I'd really like to start into
some J2EE programming so that I can get a better
idea of what the programmers in our shop do (I support the application
servers and other infrastructure items) , but
I'm not sure how far into J2SE I should go before
heading into the fire.


Not necessarily that far. You will learn some Java SE along the way.
You could also learn it before, but if EE is what you are really
interested in, then you will be more motivated when learning
along the way.

I use
Sun Java System Application Server 9.1_02 (build b04-fcs)

and

Apache Tomcat/6.0.18

and

WAS CE Build 2.1.0.1-20080825

and have made my way pretty much through to the start of collections

http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/collections/index.html

in the Java tutorial

I use Netbeans and have actually deployed an application to my
SAS (on Linux) and have played around with Eclipse but found
Netbeans to be a better tool.

I do my development on Windows and deploy to Linux. I'm ok with
either the manual method or allowing Netbeans to do it for me.


All fine.

Personally I prefer JBoss over SUN AS and Eclipse over
NetBeans, but that is like preferring blue shirts over
red shirts.

Arne

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