Re: Is C++ used in life-critical systems?
On Dec 31 2010, 4:16 pm, Leigh Johnston <le...@i42.co.uk> wrote:
On 31/12/2010 15:58, James Kanze wrote:
On Dec 31, 3:17 pm, Leigh Johnston<le...@i42.co.uk> wrote:
On 31/12/2010 08:58, James Kanze wrote:
On Dec 31, 8:23 am, gwowen<gwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 30, 7:46 pm, James Kanze<james.ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
Just a reminder: there was no bug in the Ariane's software.
There was no bug in Ariane 4's -- the software met the requirements.
There was a bug in Ariane 5's software -- the code had remained the
same but the requirements had changed.
No. The "bug" was that there wasn't any Ariane 5 software:
management simply decided to use the software from Ariane
4 without changes (and without specifying any new requirements).
The bug wasn't in the software; the problem was a very poor
management decision.
Code which does not meet its requirements is defective (in other words
"buggy").
Totally agreed. The code in the Ariane 5 met its requirements.
The fact that management decided to use the code from the Ariane
4, without redefining the requirements and having the code
rewritten (as much or as little that was necessary) is not an
error in the code, but rather in the decision process management
was using.
I think my analogy of using a C++ compiler to compile Ada is
very close. Would you consider your C++ compiler buggy because
someone used it to compile Ada, and it failed?
Bad analogy. The compiler example would fail immediately. The Ariane
example is not an immediate failure as presumably it survived some
rounds of testing (even though it seems that any testing performed was
not rigourous enough).
The software did fail on the Ariane V, the very first time it
was used. Given the way the Ariane V worked, it would fail
every time. From what I have read, it underwent *no* testing,
since as far as management was concerned, it was already
proven. The problem, again, is that management decided to reuse
a component without asking any technical people whether such
reuse was appropriate. Rather than draw up requirements for the
Ariane V, they simply plugged in software (and partially,
hardware) from the Ariane IV.
--
James Kanze
/Leigh
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