Re: Newbie Question: 'Sizeof' - I'm unclear what it actually measures, Modern equiv of older style reference manual?

From:
Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.c++
Date:
24 Aug 2010 13:38:28 GMT
Message-ID:
<4c73cb54$0$14523$7b1e8fa0@news.nbl.fi>
Christian Hackl <hacki@sbox.tugraz.at> wrote:

In C++, the correct way to create an array of 5 ints and print its size
is as follows:

[...]

  std::vector<int> scores;


  Says who?

  If I say that the "correct" way of create such an array is by using
std::deque, are you going to say that I'm wrong?

  Using std::vector is only one possible way of doing that. On what grounds
do you base your claim that it's "the correct way"?

  Besides, suggesting using std::vector in all possible cases is
irresponsible. If you want an array of exactly 5 ints, and it will be
an array of 5 ints for the entire duration of the program, then
std::vector is one of the least efficient ways of doing that. This is
especially true if it will be instantiated many times, for example as
the member of a class (which is instantiated and copied around a lot).

  If I needed an array of exactly 5 ints in a class, I would very definitely
write it as:

   class TheClass
   {
       int theArray[5]; // The *correct* way
       ...
   };

and very definitely not as:

   class TheClass
   {
       std::vector<int> theArray; // The *incorrect* way
       ...
   };

  As said, if an array of exactly 5 ints is needed, using std::vector for
that is an extremely inefficient solution.

Note that what some other languages usually call "array" is called
"std::vector" in C++.


  Again, says who?

  If I used std::deque instead, would you claim I'm wrong? On what do you
base your claim on?

IOW, it's the language's default container.


  Default container? Where does it say that?

A vector knows its own size and does not require you to cast anything.


  Neither does std::deque. Why are you shunning it?

The thing you have used are "real", or low-level, arrays. You usually do
not need them in C++, especially when you are a beginner. They will get
you into a lot of trouble and gain you nothing.


  If the array has a fixed size and is small, using an array rather than
std::vector is definitely more efficient (regardless of the context).
How is that "gain you nothing"?

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