Re: Learning C++
On Jan 6, 4:37 pm, "Balog Pal" <p...@lib.hu> wrote:
"Jorgen Grahn" <grahn+n...@snipabacken.se>
[...]
The Makefile can be an issue if you don't understand that
it needs to capture all dependencies (i.e. you have to have
autogeneration for them, using something like makedepend),
or that you can rely on the default *.cpp -> *.o rules.
Once you have seen a decent Makefile *once*, the problem is
gone.
Pobably so -- but the alternative is to not have the whole
problem set at all.
What btw is pretty shocking. I recall Borland 3.x' exported
makefile had just the list of .c sources, and .AUTODEPEND up
front -- the dependencies were compiled into .obj and make
itself read them, if the file was present. 20 years ago.
Then in today's sytems I still see the need for separete .d
outputs and cryptic rules to make them picked up? It is
crazy.
The problem is that in most cases, the authors of make aren't
speaking with the authors of the compiler. When they do: Sun's
make has a similar feature. Which only works with Sun CC, of
course.
There is a middle road between everything graphic and in menus,
and having to write every dependency yourself, or even write
some complicated code in make to generate them automatically.
[...]
On Windows with its weak command-line and lack of tools,
that seems likely to be true, but the Unix development
environment I mentioned above doesn't feel very "barefoot"
or manual to me.
Just like you have a selection of shells on unix, you can do
the same on windows. And certainly all the unix "tools" are
available.
Just appear much less needed.
Do they? I don't know any really good programmer under Windows
who doesn't use them.
There was a good joke about ATM with unix interface. ;-)
Unfortunately the keywords are not google-friendly, but I'm
sure you can imagine it.
Yes, but the target audience isn't the same.
And the point is, that if you can carry out what you want with
a single keypress or click (sometimes with 2, other times with
0) why use more? Why re-type the info before you (or paste
it) if avoidable?
The point is that you can't. Regardless of the IDE. You can't
enter code with a single click, and you can't do any advanced
editing with a single click.
--
James Kanze