Re: C++ jobs down another 40%

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In article <xR9Zm.3013$8e4.2445@newsfe03.iad>, "Chris M. Thomasson" <no@spam.invalid> wrote:

"tanix" <tanix@mongo.net> wrote in message
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In article
<66e7b0f7-4c71-4db4-a9f1-3f9d7e4dc5a5@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, James
Kanze <james.kanze@gmail.com> wrote:

On Dec 23, 11:02 pm, red floyd <redfl...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Dec 23, 12:50 pm, Jon Harrop <j...@ffconsultancy.com> wrote:

The number of job adverts in the UK citing C++ has fallen
40% for the second year in a row:


Hey, Jon! Wha'ts the market for F# jobs like?

[...]

Well, I just looked at it on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F_Sharp_%28programming_language%29

Looks like another bluff to me. All sorts of bells and whistles.
For me, personally, it is a no go, and primarlily because it is
based on .net framework.


FWIW, here is a fairly portable C# and CLR implementation:

http://www.mono-project.com


Well, that's something that looks promising,
and the pricing structure what I need is quite reasonable.

I just hate to see things like .net, or asp.net cause that immediately
triggers the Microsoft syndrome in me and all red lights start flashing.
I try to stay away from that stuff like a plague cause I know trouble
is just around the corner, at least from my experience so far.
That is why I feel MUCH more comfortable with Java overall.
Much safer environment any way you look at it.
I'd be willing to pay those guys money if they asked.
It is unfortunate Sun did not come up with some realistic and
reasonable prices structure that I would not have to givem and arm
and a leg, but, at the same time, they could recover some of their
expenses. That would make me feel much happier than to simply get Java
for free, knowing nothing in this world is free.
It is too unfortunate they ended up being bought out by Oracle.
Cause that is probably the end of Java. Oracle is not to far from
all those other big sharks. Pretty much the same camp.

Anyway, can you do GUI with this thing? All I saw so far is GTK
mentioned.

Is there a threads support?
How good is their IDE? Code completion is one of major things for me.
And how good is debugger?

Thanx for a pointer though.

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