Re: Force 'char' to be implemented as 'unsigned char'?

From:
"Jim Langston" <tazmaster@rocketmail.com>
Newsgroups:
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Date:
Thu, 21 Aug 2008 06:58:06 CST
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<JoshuaMaurice@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Replying to rancis Glassborow <francis.glassbo...@btinternet.com> On
Aug 19, 2:18 pm,wrote.

We've had this exchange going where I incorrectly implied real
hardware uses ASCII with an 8bit parity check to implement C++ chars.
I admit that was wrong. However, it did finally hit me what the
documentation of the OP was getting at.

Quoting the quote in the OP:
"Specify in your compiler configuration that plain 'char' is
implemented
as 'unsigned char'. Justification: Support 8-bit ASCII for
internationalisation. The size and sign of char is implementation-
defined. If the range of type char corresponds to 7-bit ASCII, and 8-
bit
characters are used, unpredictable behaviour may result. Otherwise
prefer
to use wchar_t type."

When they say 8-bit ASCII, they probably mean LATIN 1 or something
similar, which Windows has a nasty habit of referring to as "ASCII".


Actually, 8 bit characters on DOS/Windows based systems over 127 were
refered to as "Extended ASCII". Googling "Extended ASCII" provides enough
hits so anyone curioius can go look.

In this case, if your char is a signed value, and you try to assign
this signed value to a larger character, like a UTF32 character, the
hardware may do sign extension, resulting in not what you intended.


I guess there can be all kinds of pitfalls with converting char to numeric
values and back depending if the value was signed or not. A few times it
may be undefined what the actual result would be.

My other point that C++ chars may not be encoded as ASCII (or contain
ASCII as a subset) is still valid, and it should be taken into
account.


I tend to agree. There are some C functions working on characters that
return an int value instead of a char value to be able to return EOF. I
think those may have difficulties going into a char of undetermined signage.

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